November 22

Ep. 6 – Ascension: Why People Wake Up at Different Times

Are you impatient that some people aren’t waking up as quickly as you’d like? Of course, some people will never wake up, but here’s one reason why different people go at different paces when it comes to world change.



Topics Covered:


2:32 –   The Kind of People Who Ascend More Easily to Higher Densities
5:53 –   ESIAC vs the Diffusion of Innovations model
12:30 – How to Activate the Different Styles Depending on your Situation
15:12 –  The Seasonal Model of Change and How to Make it Work for You




HELIO TROPEZ – An Epic Time Travel Fantasy About a Secret Subterranean World


ESIAC Transitions Personality Style Quiz:




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ASCENSION – WHY PEOPLE WAKE UP AT DIFFERENT TIMES. People are waking up in droves to truths and realizations previously hidden. Maybe you’re one of them. Maybe you woke up a long time ago, like I did…or at least in some ways. Maybe some of this is new to you. Or maybe you’re even wondering what I’m talking about. How you answer that question, probably in part depends on what I consider to be your transitions personality style. So here’s we’ll explore what I call The ESIAC Transitions Personality Styles and see if you can identify which one is your default.
For example, some people love change, some people hate it, others adapt easily no matter what’s going on, some have blinders onto the broader picture, some don’t. If you know your strengths and weaknesses, you can better navigate unexpected or unwanted change in a more constructive way.
What do I mean by waking up? There’s the whole woke movement, so I don’t mean that. Something about all that seems manipulated to me…with a hidden control agenda. But I’m talking about the crazy changes happening on the world stage which are affecting different people in different ways. For example, some people just watch the mainstream news and follow along with the advice, or the advice of those around them.

Some people question some of what they’re hearing and check in inside, as to what is the truth for them, some people reject all of it. I’m a big believer in discovering your own truth rather than relying on an external source only. Of course we all grew up in a system that wants us to believe a certain way. Sometimes that information has been useful such as how to read and write. Sometimes not so helpful as in memorizing historical facts about what happened say 200 years ago that is now turning out to maybe be untrue to begin with or distorted in some way.

And I’ve fallen victim to plenty of disinformation or misinformation just like everyone else..some of which I’m aware of, some I’m not yet aware of. But I also seem to have this spidey sense warning me, when something does look or feel off. I’ve often found myself the only one seeing things that way. Can you relate? It’s like that ancient Greek myth of Cassandra, who could foresee things in the future, but no one believed her. For years, I find people in my life into certain things, or seeing things a certain way, that seem so off to me. It’s required huge inner strength to stick to what I feel is true for me, and not get on a bandwagon that seems to be going over the cliff. Maybe you are too.

I have been an expert on resilience and change leadership for over 20 years. I’ve studied it both academically and anecdotally in organizations and individuals, having done thousands of surveys and interviews over the last two decades. My research shows that people tend to have a default style when faced with unexpected change. You’ve probably noticed that one person can react entirely differently to the same external situation. Whether it’s a world change like a pandemic, lockdowns, a personal life change like getting married, having baby, getting a huge amount of income, losing a job. Then there are slow changes over time like aging that people react to in different ways.

So if life is a school and we’re in a period in humanity’s history when we’re moving onwards and upwards to higher learning, maybe we’re in final exam time right now. So we’re in high school and we’re moving to university. It might explain a lot. So that’s a big change, moving from one density of consciousness to another. And maybe quite unexpected, at least for some people. On top of that, there’s this tough exam to make sure you learned the lessons of the density you’re in now. What if part of the lesson of this density were wise discernment. So to test for this, you’re given a wide variety of data, impressions, info, heresay that is either true, partially true, partially false, or totally false. Your job is to go inside, use your wise discernment and choose correctly. If you choose based on what other people or external circumstances dictate what to do, then you’re not doing so well on the test. Then LIFE with a capital L, or the Universe, or God or SANA, or whatever you want to call it…might UP the ante….make the test harder…or make the signs more obvious.

And what if you don’t pass? Then do you NOT ascend to the next density? Do you go to a remedial kind of summer school until you catch up with the other kids? Do you decide you don’t want to go onto university, and you check out of this reality altogether. And go on another adventure somewhere all together different?

So this whole journey through change, or your ability to pass final exams, is affected by many things. Say your lifestyle habits like what you eat or drink, who you hang out with, your family background, the environment you grew up in, the kind of education you’ve had. And while all that does play a role, I would say personality style as in how you think and view the world, and level of soul development …these two play the biggest role. Otherwise, why would you find one person say in a family is doing well on the final exam, passed the test early and is now waiting for the others to finish the exam, figure out the answers. And maybe you’re one of those people trying to wake them up, hand them the test answers under the table. But that doesn’t really work. That’s cheating. They have to figure it out for themselves. And what if, even worse, they don’t even know they’re in exam time, and get annoyed at you for trying to give them the answers to something they weren’t even thinking they needed.

So that’s a position that some people who are more awake are facing. So, here’s maybe one way to frame the situation that might be helpful. One is that you’ve done more soul development. That doesn’t make you better, it’s just that maybe you’ve been around a while. Maybe you’re one of those students who had to repeat your final year of school five times already. You’ve done this test so many times you know it by heart, but it’s new to them. Neither of you is better or worse, it’s just a circumstantial difference. Or it’s like you came from overseas where all these exams were covered in younger grades, so now it’s a piece of cake. You’re like a starseed who’s here as a teaching assistant, and maybe all you need do is teach by example, by who you’re being. Your mindset alone is changing the quantum, it’s evolving the collective of humanity. You’re like a preprogrammed imaginel cell in a catterpiller, helping turn it into a butterfly.

But let’s look at it also from a personality style perspective, or what Carl Jung, the well known psychoanalyst from the last century referred to as an archetype. This is like a character, or a role we play in life that comes loaded with core beliefs, ways of looking at life, and tendencies to act in certain ways. So while most people have an initial negative reaction to unexpected and unwanted change… What happens next is often indicative of a person’s orientation to life, or what I call a Transitions Personality Style, or Transition Archetype. And part of the final exam, I believe, is to master four main styles of negotiating through transitions, which increases your resilience and innovation when it comes to problem solving and inner truth telling. This is going to fair you well in the next density level. That way you don’t end up an unwitting victim to external change. You’re not a ship lost at sea without a rudder, you have the inner ability to steer yourself through rough weather.

What can keep you stuck in a lower density is where you get too comfortable in only one style, and use it all the time, even when the situation doesn’t warrant it. Those who switch styles, or more specifically these archetypal applications, they tend to survive and thrive. They tend to be the most innovative, and resilient in my research, the ones who come out on top…who turned a tough challenge into an advantage…and are therefore more prepared for the higher densities.

Now, if you look back on your life to date, you could liken life changes to being on a roller coaster, right? External changes come at us all the time, whether we like them or not. So that will continue to happen in big and small ways for the rest of your life. Because of that, it serves to master change, if you want to not only survive but thrive. People who can’t master it, tend to suffer, and stay stuck in lower densities.

So, your transitions personality style is how you internally handle external changes. People who’ve had lots of intense change in their lives, and made it through to the other side successfully, tend to rank highly in my research for resilience and innovation. So that’s a good way to reframe all the tough things you’ve faced in your life. Because without them you wouldn’t be as resilient, wise, strong or compassionate towards others dealing with the same thing. In other words, the more crap you’ve had to deal with, the better you likely are at handling it…or another way of describing an old soul.

There was a recent New York Times article that said a person’s resilience is dictated by a combination of genetics, personal history, environment and situational context. They don’t mention mindset at all. It’s all external elements. And I disagree with that. It’s 95% based how we choose to interpret those external circumstances. For example, a client of mine worked children and teens from troubled environments for over 30 years. She was constantly mystified about how two children could come from the same troubled home and one would grow up to be a criminal, and the other one would completely use that experience to compassionately help others lead a productive life. She came to believe it was, in many cases, how the person as a child chose to interpret their experience. And being of the woo-woo world at the same time as she referred to those children as old souls, or at least ready to wisen up.

We all have the choice with every challenging experience we face, to feel like a victim to it, and just keep attracting more of the same, to become responsible for what happened to you at the soul level, or to learn from it and help others do the same. Or, hundreds of other choices. Your past doesn’t dictate your future at all. The most resilient people I studied, had a habit of learning and growing from tough situations. So their resilience had not nearly as much to do with genetics, personal history, environment or situational context, than it was the personal perspective they chose to take.

So, let’s explore what I call The ESIAC Transitions Personality Styles and see if you can identify which one is your default. ESIAC stands the 5 types which are Explorer, Stabilizer, Initiator, Adapter and Creator. In the shownotes you’ll see a link to get a copy of the quiz, and you can try for yourself or use it with your team. You can also just go to, and you’ll see it there.

So the first one is Explorer. They tend to like change, they seek variety, when change happens even if it’s unexpected or unwanted there’s a part of them the gets a bit excited, because it’s different. They like to challenge themselves to see how to innovatively handle it. Often you see these people in creative roles where they have to think outside the box, etc. The downside if not balanced by the other styles is, they tend to be a person who changes too much, they may be unstable. They wander from one thing to another, always exploring the next new shiny object. They don’t tend to have sticking power.

Maybe you are familiar with the “Diffusion of Innovations” system created by Everett Rogers, for studying how people adapt to changes. In particular it’s often talked about in marketing strategy, as in how consumers adapt to new technology, but it’s useful when looking how any population goes through a change. The Diffusion of Innovations graph is a bell curve, where the first 2.5% are called Innovators, the second wave is approximately %13.5 of a group and is called an Early Adopter, the third is getting up to the top of the bell curve and is 34% of the group and is called Early Majority. Then going down the bell curve is another 34% group called Late Majority. Then the last group, at the end of the bell curve is 16% and are a called Laggards.

You can see a similar pattern in any population when it comes to adopting a new idea, going from an old system or structure to a new one. We can see that with whole pandemic situation, to getting a smart phone, to switching fashion trends, to the switching of roles in society, to cultural trends.

So, there is some crossover with my system and this system in that Explorers would be at the beginning of that Bell Curve, as an Innovator or Early Adopter. They were probably the first to buy an iPod, when no one else had heard of it yet. They are very open-minded to new ideas and are the first ones to adopt it and share their findings. In today’s era of questioning the narrative, they might be labelled the conspiracy theorists, or the crazy tin foil hat wearing people who open their minds wide to seeing things in new ways. You might be one of them. They boldly go where no man or woman has gone before. This is great strength unless it’s unbalanced with the other styles, where a person is going down deep rabbit holes of information believing anything new and different just because it’s new and different without doing their own research, without grounding it for themselves. They can be led in the wrong direction if not careful…and can strike others as unstable…so it’s harder for them to gain credibility with others.

An opposite type to the Explorer is, the Stabilizer. They don’t like change, they don’t seek it, and when change happens even if it’s a good change, they tend to resist. If this quality is unbalanced with the other styles, they tend to be close-minded, saying no to anything new and unfamiliar. They are what the Explorers might called the total mind controlled normies. In the diffusion of innovations system, they are the Laggards…at the end of the Bell Curve when it comes to adopting something new in life. The upside of someone like this is that they our very discerning, they do their due diligence, they are very picky about what they choose to believe or focus on. But once a change has anchored its way into a population or a person’s life, when there is no going back, they are very good at troubleshooting, sorting out the glitches, and ensuring it stabilized. You often see these people in roles such as engineering, accounting, administration.

A third type is called the Initiator. Like an Explorer they will initiate change, but they won’t change over and over again. They pick one ‘well-thought through’ change and make sure it happens through to completion. They might be like the Early Adopter or Early Majority in the ‘Diffusion of Innovations” model. They won’t be the first out of the gate, but as soon as something looks somewhat viable, authentic and effective, they tend to lead the way. They are good at getting others to follow. Explorers don’t really care if people follow, they just want to be the solo Eagle on the horizon finding the latest thing. The Initiators, on the other hand, want to find something that works, and influence others to take that road as well. That’s why you’ll often see them in a leadership role, or as an entrepreneur, or as a YouTuber trying to wake everyone up…and getting some traction with it. They are bold leaders. If this quality is unbalanced with the other styles, though, they can be pushy, trying to get others to change before they’re ready, and they can rush to a solution before it’s been properly thought through.

A fourth type is called the Adapter. They won’t initiate change, but they will go with the flow, adapt to whatever change comes their way, helping others in a compassionate way to adjust to uncomfortable changes. Often you’ll find people like this in a healer role, caregiver roles, human resources, counseling, coaching, spiritual helper role, etc. In the Diffusion of Innovations model they would be like the Early to Late Majority. They don’t change until other people have changed, but if they see lots of people going in a certain direction they’ll jump on board and support it. If this quality is unbalanced with the other styles, they can tend to be a pushover, not having good boundaries, just going with whatever life brings them, instead of choosing and focusing their energy in a certain direction that’s right for them.

The fifth style is called the Creator, and it’s actually a combination of all the styles. A Creator is one who switches styles depending on the situation. Think about it for yourself, we have all these ways of being inside us. There are times of life and situations that can bring out different ESIAC styles. This is a good thing. It’s not good to be stuck in only one style. At the MindStory Academy, we talk a lot about how the mind organizes the way you view life in story form, including characters, theme, plot, setting Etc. We take on different characters or archetypes at different times in life. For example maybe you were an Explorer in your early 20s traveling the world. Then you activated your inner Initiator, and got an education and went after a specific career. Then you got married and had kids, and needed to activate your inner Stabilizer. Then, you all of a sudden have more people in your life, people on both sides of the family to consider, and you need to be constantly activating your inner Adaptor to keep the peace and move the group along in a harmonious way. Then usually when you get older you get good at switching styles depending on what life brings you. That is a sign you have activated the Creator style.

If you default to one particular style in all situations – it’s not wise. I’m sure you’ve met people like that. They just keep being an Explorer all their life, they never settle down, they never get focused, they never want to slow down. Similarly, you might find someone who just always need stability, and will sacrifice growth and fulfillment just to feel safe in their familiar world. Or the Initiator who spends their entire life just chasing one ambitious goal after another and sacrificing other aspects of life to do so, or the Adapter who just does what everybody else wants them to do.

These are four states of being you may notice are similar to other personality style inventories. There are something like 167 four-style personality systems out there like Disc, or the one with the colors, and most of them are quite similar. ESIAC applies the four basic personality styles of the human condition to transitions in life. So, as I said, the best way is to switch styles depending on the situation.

For example activate your inner Initiator if it’s time to make an important change in your life, and you need to be bold about it, like leave a job that is mandating you to do things you don’t want to do. Activate the inner Adapter when you’re in the chaos phase of change and you just need to be compassionate with yourself and others, take some down time, self healing, helping others in a patient way to handle the change, even if they are lagging behind. Maybe you activate the inner Explorer when everything you’ve tried to make things work in your life fails, and you need to think outside the box. You need to find a way to make a living, and keep your family together and be true to your values…so you come up with an amazing new business idea that meets all your criteria. And then, you may need to activate your inner Stabilizer when need to stop changing for a while and just stabilize your life, grow roots, settle down, rest and celebrate your successes.

So if you do the quiz at, and you are even on all 4 styles, you tend to be what’s called a Creator, which, as I said, is a sign of truly being resilient and innovative. It is useful to not only try the inventory for yourself, but also to share with a mate or a work team, or with colleagues, with your family, or any group you’re part of. Because, of course, opposite types can tend to chafe against each other. In fact often when I interview people, or when I used to do couples mediation, I often noticed people married the opposite type. They got into business with an opposite type. Or the four main leaders in a business represent the four different styles. This is actually a good thing. If you had a business where everybody was an Explorer, what would happen? You’d probably just keep jumping from one idea to another. If everyone was a Stabilizer, nothing new would ever happen. The problem is that Explorers and Stabilizers can have trouble understanding each other. If everyone was an Initiator, there’d be constant competition for who’s the boss. If everyone was an Adaptor, everyone would be sitting around focused on healing all the time, and a stagnancy would grow. Initiators and Adapters can also have trouble with each other. Initiators being impatient with Adaptors, and Adaptors feeling hurt by Initiator. But when you understand other people’s worldview, and how sometimes that’s a very helpful way to be, especially in certain circumstances, it can lead to more collaborative and empathic conversations, which usually lead to better solutions on a team.

In the quiz that you download, you’ll find useful questions to trigger deeper conversations about differences. You’ll also see a graphic of the seasonal change model. To better navigate change it helps to understand that all changes have a certain structure to them, whether you upgrade your software, move house, or go through a huge political change, financial change in your country, or if all of humanity is ascending to a new density level. If you look at the graph, the vertical side is level of performance, and the horizontal side is time. So when a change happens, performance goes from stable to a huge drop, productivity goes down, because change tends to mean people have to go back into beginner’s mind. They have to learn a new way of being. Then you enter into a kind of roller coaster of ups and downs, full of false starts, when it comes to performance and productivity so it feels like chaos. I call this stage the winter of change. It’s dark, cold, barren, nothing much looks like it’s happening. It’s where you have to let go of the old, wake up to what’s not been working. I would say in some ways we’ve been in that stage as a world population for a while now, but are soon to come out of it.

So if you can get to a transforming idea, it tends to pull productivity back up and then you get into the Spring season of change, where new life starts to sprout, the flowers come out, the leaves turn green again. I think there are some new transforming ideas coming, more people have ah ha moments, new businesses, new tech, new systems emerging…we’ve now got the innovators and early adopters on board, maybe even some early majority…the train is leaving the station.

Then, once you get into the summer season of change, you are really starting to stabilize and getting more comfortable with the new systems, structures and ways of being. The late majority are now on board. And finally the autumn season of change is where you get the harvest of having gone through that growth cycle. When all looks good and safe, then the laggards join the party.

So you’ll see on the graph that different personality styles are better at different stages of the change process. Initiators are good at initiating change or taking bold action when change hits, getting people quickly toward the ultimate vision, the harvest or Autumn stage of Change. But they don’t like the lower productivity that tends to happen right after a change hits, and can get impatient with others. Adapters on the other hand are very good at helping people through the loss and disorientation phase of the Winter of change, as it’s normal for people to go through stages of grief and disorientation when change happens, even if it’s a change they want. Explorers are very good at finding the transformational idea that will help everybody get back in high performance mode or helping move people into the Spring of Change, because they are the ideation people. And Stabilizers are then good at stabilizing a change so that whole group starts to work better in the Summer phase of change. They will problem solve until the glitches are sorted out.

So, what does all that mean in terms of ascension? In the story, Helio Tropez, some people go through the integration of separate parts of themselves quicker than others. And of course this is important to marry the dark and light within and so without. However, as we also see sometimes some people seem farther ahead but are not actually. And others seem lost in the wilderness and then all of sudden just do a 180 degree turn. It’s partly due to the type of journey you’ve been on to date, where those who’ve explored the far reaches of what life has to offer in both dark and light sometimes integrate quicker than those who’ve played a safer game, cloistered away for too long.

So the bottom line here is that you may be an Explorer ready for things to change NOW, and you have no patience for the Stabilizers who are resisting the change. Or you may be an Adaptor who is upset by people not getting along at this time, or by the Initiator types who have their specific goal that they have the blinders on with…and they aren’t considering other options. All styles of going through a change have a role to play, whether it’s in a family that’s moving from one part of the country to another, or whether it’s in a whole population going from homo sapien to homo luminous, from 3D to 5D or beyond. We all have these archetypal patterns within us. The ones who will thrive in the coming golden age are those who switch styles depending on the situation. If you’re used to being an Explorer, try being stable for a while…sticking with one thing and going deep, growing roots. If you’re used to just going with the flow and adapting to everyone else’s needs, try sticking to your guns on something and getting others to follow your lead. If you resist most change, try that adventurous thing you always wanted to try but keep putting off. And if you always need to be the boss, try giving the lead to someone else and being a follower for a while…and see what you learn…see how life can be rewarding in ways you never thought of before. Because of course any challenge that life brings is often an invitation to stretch ourselves, try new ways of being and thinking.

As we move through this ascension process, we’ll all need to be exploring then stabilizing then initiating then adapting, then back to exploring again. It’s a wild ride, a tumultuous alchemical fusion of differing energies bringing us into a new earth, with new frequencies, systems, structures and possibilities like never before. And if people aren’t being The Creator, switching styles around you, as often as they need…try helping people focus on their strengths versus complaining about their weaknesses. Stabilizers have good discernment, focus on details, like to fix issues, and like things to be grounded. Explorers like to come up with “out of the box” ideas, and can often see beyond the horizon to what’s coming when others can’t. Adaptors are compassionate with others, patience and able to easily adapt to other’s needs. Initators are like a dog with a bone, give them a goal they believe in and they will persist when others give up…getting through to completion. If we’re all focused on our strengths in any group then you tend to have a better, more well-oiled machine for whatever change and challenge your group faces.

So think about that in any group that you are part of. Are you balanced, or are you lopsided? Which qualities do you need to develop in yourself to have more skills and resources to handle the intense change we seem to be going through both personally and in the world right now?

I do believe we are headed for a big Event soon that some people will be ready for and some won’t be so ready. It’s coming soon, so the more balanced we can be the better we can handle it within ourselves, and the more we can help others who aren’t quite ready yet. But I suspect if you’re listening to this…chances are you’re one of the readier ones. I know it’s easy to get impatient with others who aren’t awakening to what’s really going on, but people will go at their own pace, as needed. We are supported by a higher power that’s looking out over us and I do believe at the soul level…all will find their way…they will go through this transition in whatever way is their style, at this time, in whatever way is best for them. Holding the big picture on this, keeping our eye on the prize…of this new golden age for humanity…will make the whole transition process so much smoother.

So, as I said you’ll see in the show notes a link for The ESIAC Transitions Personality Style Quiz. Or, just go to

That’s it for today, I hope it was useful. Do like, share and subscribe if you haven’t already done so.


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